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Bad Credit? Great, You'll Pay Less For a Car
09/05/2007

Car Salesmen rank somewhere just below Personal Injury Attorneys and right above Dog Fight Promoters on the Loveability Index. They'd shake their own mother down to squeeze out a few extra dollars on a sale. But you came in armed with excellent credit and a good payment history, so you're gonna get a better deal than some deadbeat, right? Wrong.

Mark Marine is a long-time car dealer. But unlike many of his car-selling peers, he grew a conscience and decided maybe it was time consumers understood what really goes on when they buy a car. So he wrote a book titled, "Kick the Dealer... Not the Tires!". In it, he discusses the role your credit plays when you buy a car. And, even though it sounds counter-intuitive, having good credit may not get you the best deal.

"You may not want to hear this but the people getting the best price on a car are people with bad credit," says Marine. "The car-buying experience is designed to allow dealers to make up profits lost on bad-credit sales by making bigger profits on good-credit sales." So, just like with insurance, the rest of us end up paying higher rates because of the idiots out there.

So how can you arm yourself against the dealers when they check your credit and find out you actually pay your bills on time? Marine gives five key points you should know before buying a new car:

1. Check your Credit Report.
Most credit reports contain inaccurate information. It's up to you to correct it — there's no government agency that requires the credit report companies to amend mistakes to your report. And Marine warns against using the "credit repair" companies if you find problems on your credit report. “There is no such thing as credit repair," he says. "These companies claim they can hide or remove negative information from your credit report, even if that information is true. But they can't. What's even worse is that after they've 'repaired' your credit, your score drops even lower than before you went to them."

2. Bad Credit Means the Bank Protects Its Money.
When you have bad credit, the bank places more restrictions on the loan. That gives dealers less wiggle room to add on extras and options, lowering the amount of stuff they try to squeeze into the deal. (On the flip side, bad credit still means you have fewer options when borrowing money.)

3. Good Credit Means You're Ripe for Abuse.
When you have good credit, banks place fewer restrictions on your loan and that allows dealers to charge you more, throw in "necessary" add-ons, offer you more options, etc. So it's crucial ammunition to know your lender's conditions on your loan up-front.

4. Get Pre-approved Before You Visit Any Car Dealer.
That way you'll know up front any conditions placed on your loan. And all the terms. Then the dealer is forced to make a deal that fits the conditions outlined by your bank - eliminating his profit wiggle room.

5. Have an Exit Strategy.
Don't let the lust for leather seats and a premium sound system melt your brain. When buying a car, keep in mind at some point you'll sell that car. So you have to be smart. You'll pay much more for options than you'll recoup when selling, or trading in, your car down the road.

"A car purchase will affect your economic life for roughly three to seven years," says Marine. "That's a long time to be stuck in a bad deal."

Comments

One of the Idiots wrote:

You know i have bad credit so i guess im an idiot even thought it wasn't really my fault considering that i had identity theft and i am still sorting it out so because of that i have bad credit so that makes me an idiot and a deadbeat but the person who took my identity probably has great credit and they are wonderful people so to make things short i appreciate this article labeling all people with bad credit idiots and deadbeats so once again thank you.
09/06/2007 12:32 PM

haha wrote:

u r the sux
09/06/2007 12:38 PM

pwned wrote:

All your idiots are belong to us
09/06/2007 12:46 PM

God wrote:

You're a dumb cock sucking bitch.
09/06/2007 12:47 PM

Ditto wrote:

Before you call people with bad credit idiots, you need to first find out why they have bad credit. Deadbeats aside, a lot of good, hard working people have bad credit due to job lay offs, family deaths, etc. Don't be so quick to judge.
09/06/2007 12:51 PM

youareanidiot wrote:

this is too stupid for me to even finish this comme...
09/06/2007 12:58 PM

Jeebus wrote:

@ One of the Idiots

Maybe if you read the article a little closer than you secure personal documents, you'd realize the "idiots" are poor drivers who raise the rates of insurance premiums and the phrase "deadbeats" was spoken from the perspective of a foolish,overly confident purchaser with great credit.
09/06/2007 12:59 PM

matt wrote:

yeah i will say that the bachelor guy typically has some interesting articles and well thought out ideas, but he has fallen from his perch by stating that folks with bad credit are idiots.

boo on you.

stick to gear, style, food, drink, and entertainment, because apparently you are lacking on the "skills".

sorry, but SOMEONE has to tell you these things.
09/06/2007 01:03 PM

Einstein wrote:

You're all idiots!
09/06/2007 01:13 PM

your momma wrote:

As far as I'm concerned, anybody who makes me pay more for my insurance is an idiot!
09/06/2007 01:14 PM

Joe Momma wrote:

Some people are Idiots regardless of their credit score...
09/06/2007 01:19 PM

shut the fuck up wrote:

Man, you obviously need a reality check. You're very far away from this New America we're in - of fraud, corporate corruption, corporate motherfuckers in general, disproportionate inflation to rising costs, etc etc. It's very easy be a victim of bad credit, unless you live a simple little life in the bumblefuck of Kansas.
09/06/2007 02:03 PM

LULZ wrote:

You guys are hostile! Try eating a snack or something.
09/06/2007 02:11 PM

Idgit wrote:

Or are the "idiots" the ones who spend all their money on a new car?
09/06/2007 02:23 PM

Harry Manback wrote:

"So, just like with insurance, the rest of us end up paying higher rates because of the idiots out there. "

Way to alienate everyone with "bad-credit" and high insurance rates. That pretty much amounts to most of the world. So before you blithely judge 2/3 of the population, perhaps you should realize that this is how the system is set up so that corporations can profit the most. They make up reasons you'll be branded as a lower-tier customer in order to justify screwing you over a little better. Please stop perpetuating negative stereotypes of "deadbeats" and "idiots" with bad credit. They're human too, though you apparently haven't been out in the real world long enough to notice.
09/06/2007 02:40 PM

Gus wrote:

Waa waa, people. It's a good article, even if it was written a bit "tastelessly."

It's the Internet. Deal.

Yet, it's worth mentioning that the credit system is extremely complicated... dare I say Byzantine?

I'd be willing to bet money that the vast majority of people don't truly have an understanding of how their credit is calculated. Yes, we all know the basics: debt to credit ratio, do you pay your bills on time and pay more than the balance... but does any of us TRULY understand how credit ratings are set? I doubt it.
09/06/2007 03:58 PM

Retired new car dealer wrote:

This post is bogus. Good credit gets the best deal and lowest interest rate. I was a new car dealer for 34 years and those with bad credit pay a higher interest rate if we could get them approved at all. The factory subvented rates (as low as 0%) only go to customers with good credit.

Don't believe everything you read. Pick a respected dealership and develop a trusting and longterm relationship and you will get the best value.
09/06/2007 05:37 PM

Hahahaahahahahaah wrote:

@ One of the idiots

Wow, forget about your credit score! The impressive lack of punctuation and redundant rambling of your comment more than qualifies you as on of the idiots.
09/06/2007 07:25 PM

joe wrote:

Ok so in the end we have to pay for the companies lending mistake?
Yet they continue to make bilions...

Um the system is fubar :-(
09/06/2007 08:11 PM

DURKA DURKA wrote:

I have bad credit, and it's because I was an idiot and spent money that I didn't have.
09/07/2007 09:46 AM

HominidX wrote:

Learn to read, losers. It's saying the idiots are the ones who default on the car loans.
Also people who can't read simple English.
09/07/2007 11:02 AM

zx wrote:

zxc
09/07/2007 12:52 PM

DigitalBrian wrote:

The entire idea with a "Credit Report" is bad, people get in trouble all the time, just think if you have a student loan you pay off over 30 years, I guarantee you that sometime during those 30 years you WILL miss payments, todays world are not designed for people keeping their jobs all of their life.

All there are in those reports are numbers, they dont tell anything about the person.

Where I was born you can be reported if you dont pay your bills, you then have your name on a bad payer list for 5-10 years and then it is over, but you are not on that list unless you really fail to pay, besides that nobody can see anywhere how much and to whom you owe. you dont have a score or a report, that is just dumb.
09/11/2007 08:43 PM

kitt52 wrote:

Boy did this make me mad....I am one of those idiots.....who lost their car back to the repo man. We bought the car in good faith from a Reputable Dealer who told us it was the best priced vehicle we could get. Now when we went in to look we wanted a modest car with modest payments.....well the banks and loan places wouldnt do that because the older car might break down . We end up with a newer one for more money and very high interest rates(dont know where you came up with a low interest rate for a higher risk) All was well because we knew we could handle the payment...until you end up sick ..not just one but both of you....then what do you do... We paid the Dr. bills and tried to work with the company we had the loan thru but in all they came and got it......who is the idiot. We are financially a lot better off now and if they would of listened and given us the 2 extra months of working with us paying partial payments we still would be paying for the car and they wouldnt be out any money. Not only are you stupid for assuming that all people that have bad credit are stupid, but the businesses out there are just as dumb. Who is stupid..... not me.
10/08/2007 03:32 PM

ur bank has ur soul wrote:

here's the truth... its a commission/ profit geared industry/ market...The only good deals are the one's that allow the dealership to broker the best loan(highest sum of money). We are all walking talking annuities who must pay by law... When we invest (lend a business money) in a business ..the tables are turned...If they fail.. they don't have to pay and they don't get reported...they just disappear...the risk is ours to assume...sux 2 b a customer doesn't it.
the banks count on bad circumstances.. more money if you fail..
no credit..no excuses . just don't get it..
if the companies don't have terms you can foresee -ably live by.. then don't get them..
10/31/2007 09:27 AM

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