Women as Wingmen
12/04/2008

It’s no big secret that I think most of the advice about women on the Internet is useless crap - and I’m right. In fact, in a future column I’ll put up a top-list of my favorite pieces of stupid, pointless advice that will hurt you with women, not help you.

One of my favorite pet peeves isn’t a piece of advice; rather, it is an idea. It’s the notion that real men don’t have women friends; a woman is for fucking, dating long enough to cheat on with all her friends, and that’s about it. (Barring the occasional late-night booty call when nothing else is around to screw.) Many Internet advisors even warn you that you should stop your pretty girlfriend from having guy friends; they all just want to nail her. In short, these guys are idiots and if you don’t have women friends, you’re an idiot, too.

I have more female friends than male. In fact, the numbers aren’t even close. By far, I have more women friends. Tonight I’m taking one to see Blue Man Group with some free passes I got from my editor. I’m not friends with these women because I have ulterior motives of any sort; but, I get lots of perks, just the same:
1 - I’m inside a lot of their conversations, so I get to hear what they think and why. This constantly adds to my knowledge and success when it comes to dating and relationships.
2 - I flirt with them a lot. This keeps my flirting and innuendo skills honed and sharp.
3 - They draw other women to me.

When you’re out at the bar, who meets more women? You with your guy friends or the guy hanging out with his female friends? Exactly.

Last Spring, I had a bunch of women who wanted to play volleyball but not enough guys to fill a roster. So, I put a team together of six women and myself. We signed up for a coed league. It’s five women and me on the court at all times (incidentally, we finished first out of fifteen teams). Do you have any idea how easy it is for me to meet women on other teams, especially since the women on my own are hot? The team situation is intriguing to them, in turn making me intriguing. When I’m interested in a woman on another team, I flirt and joke with her from across the net as we play. After the match, I simply ask her out. I’ve hardly spoken to her but she knows a lot about me already: I play a sport she plays (we have that in common), women like me (I’m the only guy on the team and she doesn’t know whether I put the team together or if the women asked me to play), and I’m bold and fun (from flirting and joking around during the match). Why not go out with me?

This past summer, I was sitting in a beer garden, having a drink with a pretty blonde friend. A woman sitting several tables away caught my eye. She was stunning and her body could only be described as “curvolicious.” Her rollerblades rested against her chair. I had to meet her; however, she was wedged between four other women and a guy. As we got ready to go, I wrote my email on a napkin (a clean one, in case you’re stupid), but my printing is pretty bad, so my friend actually re-wrote it for me. I walked over to the woman’s table, interrupted the conversation, and simply told her, “I’ve been sitting over there with my friend, wanting to come over here and meet you, but I didn’t want to leave her all alone. You rollerblade, I take it?”
“Yes.”
“Play any sports?”
“Tennis.”
“Really? Tennis? I would definitely like to talk to you more. I love tennis; it’s a great workout. Here’s my email, if you want to get in touch. I’m Ian, by the way.”
She took my email and to my surprise replied, “You got guts. Guts will get you everywhere.”

And they did get me everywhere... and back, a couple times. Truthfully, had I been out with a guy, it never would have worked. Being with a pretty woman was key to getting her to contact me without us exchanging more than a few words. I can go on endlessly with similar stories.

So you go ahead, most of you Internet dating ”experts” and don’t have women friends. I envy your coolness, your suave attitude, and have to admit, yes, you are quite the player and stud. Me? Well, I prefer to keep getting everywhere... and back, a couple times.

Pick up a copy of Ian’s bestselling book (not only because it’s full of good stuff, but also because I’m not paying him), God is a Woman: Dating Disasters.

And find excerpts and Ian's other columns here.


Comments

You r a wrote:

Faggot!
12/06/2008 11:09 AM

Smarter than first guy wrote:

↑↑↑ Fail ↑↑↑
12/06/2008 11:12 AM

John wrote:

You couldn't be any more correct in this article. I have a lot more female friends than I do guy friends and as a result, I never have a problem with meeting new girls or anything else. Life is good, and besides, why discriminate on gender when they have so much to offer?
12/06/2008 11:20 AM

SeifuZen wrote:

Actually this is by far some of the best advice ive seen on any self proclaimed PUA's (pick up artist) web page. Women don't feel threatened by a man who's with another women especially if the woman is just as beautiful or more so then them.
12/06/2008 11:50 AM

Dave wrote:

i too have more female friends. i don't know why.
maybe it's because we don't compete?

anyhow, i think a female can be a great wingman. it's not come up too much with me, but a supportive girl can be a great confidence boost at very least.
12/06/2008 12:48 PM

Max wrote:

A bit refreshing.
12/06/2008 03:53 PM

Amy wrote:

He's actually right. It's kind of a mutual thing though depending on how close you are to the guy. I'm best friends with a guy who has tons of female friends and I basically pull him through with advice and etc. It's fun.
12/06/2008 05:20 PM

ebenz420 wrote:

I'm a woman, and I have many more male friends then female friends.

As a sexually active person, and someone who goes to bars, I would like to inform you that I have no intentions of going up to a group of bitchy girls I do not know.

Instead, I would pick the group of guys...
because well..Hey, more to choose from.
Thankyou.
12/14/2008 08:37 AM

Kasey wrote:

So, even if you had a girlfriend you would go out with groups of girls and "flirt with them a lot" and hope they "draw other women towards you?"

You sound like a manwhore. I wouldn't even want to be friends with you if that was your goal with me. Fyi, girls hate manwhores. If a girl sees you with a giant group of girls, they assume you are one, and you won't get very far with them.
12/14/2008 10:15 AM

James wrote:

Shut up Kasey. Having social status of you hanging with girls gives you more of a chance than a guy with 8 of his guy buddies.

Kasey has been dealing with losers. Get a grip bitch.
12/14/2008 11:04 AM

duh.. wrote:

you're all 'tards for thinking it's so simple. its far more situational than just being with guys or girls. Alot of it has to do with how you present yourself. That's what you clearly aren't picking up from this article.
12/14/2008 03:07 PM

Lee wrote:

Poor guy... will end up alone because no woman will trust a guy that "prefers to keep getting everywhere... and back a couple of times". Unless of course she does the same to you...

A real man loves and conquers the same woman everyday. To have a lot of women (or friends) is the same as having none.

Yea, and I'm the loser for having ONE beautiful and amazing girfriend. Yea right.
Nice article.... for a monkey.
12/16/2008 01:00 AM

perennialdeity wrote:

Yeah well it is the typical approach of putting a book out there that tells people exactly what they want to hear regardless of the truth, making the title as absurd yet catchy as can be---"God is a woman"(i just pissed my panties!), and then trying to get all intimate and understanding with the reader so as to K.O him out with cheap covert hypnosis composition...

This book probably comes with its own SEO tweaked webpage, Email subscription, and a title in bold capital letters: NEED LINKS THAT GO EVERYWHERE.....AND BACK A COUPLE OF TIMES!
12/16/2008 07:41 AM

lmao wrote:

I agree with "you r a" lmao...

faggot
12/16/2008 12:37 PM

Justin wrote:

This article is looking at the bright side of being stuck in the friend zone.

Have fun with your wingmen not fucking them.
12/16/2008 06:42 PM

Sarah wrote:

I can see where this can work, but for some females I know, it wouldn't. It's nature to see a man and woman together, and assume they're a couple (unless they obviously look similar). So imo, to see a man walk away from his gal pal, and try to pick me up, even if he says he's with a friend, would be a turn off for me. Why would you ditch your friend just to try and hook up with someone?
12/18/2008 07:13 AM

Bruce Longhorn wrote:

You just gave her your email? Pussy.
12/29/2008 11:58 AM

Sarah wrote:

There is no such thing as a friend zone.

All my guy friends are guys I would have sex with.

If I don't want to have sex with a guy who's my friend, it's because he's either
a) fat
b) has a girlfriend who isn't okay with it
c) I already had sex with him and it was terrible
01/11/2009 04:31 PM

bender wrote:

I want to be sarah's friend
01/20/2009 10:33 PM

Add Comment

:

:




Comments must be approved before being published.

-->






-->